Well beyond the fact that Mr. McCain is actually Senator McCain and beyond the obvious argumentum ad hominem. I still see no evidence to support Mrs. Edwards’s claim yet. Furthermore at this point. I am also looking forward to any “available evidence” that a free market won’t produce cheaper products for the largest number of people. You probably noticed that I changed the quote a little (at least you should have; I did mark my changes in bold). First. I’m not looking for “all available evidence,” because I’m certain Paul didn’t really mean “all;” that would be absurd. I’m also looking for positive results for the greatest number because looking for results for “everyone” would also be absurd. Finally. I replaced “healh care” with “products” because the economic principles which have undergone extensive academic investigation for decades apply to most products including insurance and health care.
Mrs. Edwards almost certainly doesn’t understand the comprehensive nature of the senator’s approach. That’s not condescending; it’s a reasonable assumption. Further if Mrs. Edwards did understand the comprehensive nature of the senator’s approach she probably wouldn’t be claiming that she would be unable to get insurance. That’s not to mention the fact that it’s almost wholly unreasonable to suggest that Senator McCain would enact a policy that precludes himself from getting insurance as well.
It also doesn’t strike me as particularly dismissive. Paul did in fact manage to get a valid and reasonable quote. I suppose perhaps the McCain campaign who responded to Paul’s questions may have recommended that Paul visit the campaign website () for answers to Paul’s specific questions about pre-existing conditions but I hardly see that as dismissive; all of the information is there and is freely available.
Paul don’t attack the term “medical losses” please. They have to have some kind of succinct description to put on their income statements. They also call them “medical costs” sometimes. In either case it does a decent job of differentiating them from say operating costs. On top of that don’t imply that insurance companies try not to honor their commitments as though the entire industry is designed to cheat people and line pockets. Think of the countless lives which have been saved and improved with thanks due to the excellent medical care paid for by insurance companies. Sure insurance companies can be troubling to deal with but that’s because they also feel like it’s unreasonable to pay 200 dollars for 2 Tylenol at the local hospital. They’re fighting to keep costs down too and rest assured that medical providers do cut prices to accommodate insurance companies. I may be wrong but it sounds a lot like promoting cost-effective medical care.
I know a lot of unhealthy people who have insurance Paul. I don’t consider unhealthy people to be healthy. Therefore. I am forced to reject your hypothesis that insurance companies only cover healthy people. As such. I must also reject your hypothesis that this is the way insurance companies cut costs. Further. I object to your claim that insurance companies deny as many claims as possible citing a lack of industry expertise. I would however be interested in reviewing your data regarding the large sums spent collecting debt. I wonder if these large sums would be smaller sums if medical care prices were more reasonable. I don’t suppose you found anything about that in your research.
Paul it is very interesting (and telling) that you believe that the McCain health plan is a set of bullet points on the campaign web site? Most people would look at such a thing and presume that the bullet points on the campaign web site are actually a succinct summary of the health plan rather than the plan itself. It’s also interesting that you believe that the entire McCain staff hasn’t considered any research in the design of their health care plan. There are a lot of politicians I don’t care much for and there are even more with whom I have fundamental political and social disagreements but there are very few whom I believe are stupid. Not one of the candidates in this election would dare decide such a critical issue on “blind faith” and it is appalling to think that there are people out there who believe they would let alone who would publish this belief.
This is absolutely true. The VA Hospital system has made great strides to catch up to the rest of the health care industry. The VA Hospital is on the cutting edge of technology for a government institution. In fact the VA is almost as good as privatized health care organizations. Thanks are due not only to the Clinton administration but also to the Bush administration for “nearly doubling the VA budget expanding community grants for homeless veterans signing concurrent receipt legislation and investing millions of dollars in traumatic brain injury and psychological disorder research” according to the VFW newsletter.
Senator McCain has voted throughout his career to ensure that Veteran’s Affairs health care programs get funding. Did we look at the same ? The one I looked at had a pretty long list of things Senator McCain would like to do to support the VA. While I agree that the “freedom fighters should be free to chose” thing is a bit cheesy. I don’t see what’s wrong with telling our veterans. “hey go to the VA if you’d like especially for really big and important things but feel free to go anywhere you wanna go and we’ll still pay for it.” Not only does Senator McCain intend to leave the VA intact he would also like to extend VA privileges to retired veterans who aren’t even eligible for VA health care. I rest assured that the VA will still be “mantled” when Senator McCain is president though I encourage you to find out for yourself.
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